We must understand clearly of what we are saying or fighting for. EU do not buy palm oil from Malaysia because of deforestation. The government must talk along with the real issues. Wold with NGOs who against the deforestation and consult the right person.I think business cannot blur the politician and the politician need to consult the academician who do not have interest in business and politics. Some NGO also have interest in politic and business BUT academician in NGOs probably can be trusted.