In Malaysia more ceremonial rather than activities itself. How to assess succesfull leaders in research. one way is to see how many people especially young scientists or old scientists try to follow the topic. Look at history of heavy mtals studies in Malaysia. May be its started i 1980s but after late 1980s and 1990s research and number of scientists involved increasing. This make number of publication on heavy metals too increasing and the number of postgraduates too increasing and spreading nationwide and regional areas.